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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://theparentingpassageway.com/2010/02/27/the-typical-ages-of-disequilibrium/#comment-12516</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sarah,
I think family life is like that though, don&#039;t you?  By that, I mean points of feeling   amore connected to our children than at other times..This is the time when really you start to develop your own calm, loving authority.  Rhythm is a huge holder for a child of almost four, and we must be open to changing our rhythm with our children.  Many children get really, really, ramped up when Daddy comes home from work.  It may be that the play needs to be something calmer at that time.  Sometimes bedtime is literally just getting through it because they are so very tired and cannot control themselves well.  

At almost four, children do care about others, but really cannot put themselves in someone else&#039;s shoes yet.  That skill develops at its height around the nine year change.  I think your husband handled it well by not using too many words and just staying the course of trying to get dressed, but of course if he needs a break because he is being hurt (a boundary, not hurting others), than he could have tried distraction through a story or other imaginative pictures.  &quot;Let me tell you a little story about a bunny I know who did not want to get dressed...&quot; sometimes can be just the trick to get through things.

Giving a child choices at this age can be very difficult.  THey often don&#039;t care about the consequences well at the age of almost four, often cannot predict what the outcome of their actions will be (ie, not wanting to brush their teeth doesn&#039;t mean they are choosing to get cavities at this age, you know?)....So, I am all for boundaries, especially when it comes to hurting ourselves or others through words or actions, but I dont think give him choices about doing this or else this will happen because I think almost four is a little young for that.  You hold the space through the rhythm, through your calm actions, through not so many words, and know in your heart things like, yes, this child has got to get off to bed NOW!  LOL.  

With almost four year olds, look carefully at rhythm - he may very well need four to six hours outside a day, what work is he engaged with around the house,   what is he engaged with with his hands - baking, wet felting, polishing things, scrubbing, - all come to mind.  How is his diet and sleep?  Here is a post that may help you look at rhythms in the home:  http://theparentingpassageway.com/2010/01/13/waldorf-in-the-home-with-the-three-and-four-year-old/                   and I also recommend all the four year posts under the DEVELOPMENT tab.  This post might also be helpful:  http://theparentingpassageway.com/2011/04/16/strong-willed-at-three-and-four-years-of-age/  and this one:  http://theparentingpassageway.com/2011/02/13/how-to-best-support-your-childs-development-ages-3-5/

Hope that is a helpful spot, you are doing a great job and I think this is just an age where parenting is really shifting around as our child develops more fully.
Love,
Carrie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,<br />
I think family life is like that though, don&#8217;t you?  By that, I mean points of feeling   amore connected to our children than at other times..This is the time when really you start to develop your own calm, loving authority.  Rhythm is a huge holder for a child of almost four, and we must be open to changing our rhythm with our children.  Many children get really, really, ramped up when Daddy comes home from work.  It may be that the play needs to be something calmer at that time.  Sometimes bedtime is literally just getting through it because they are so very tired and cannot control themselves well.  </p>
<p>At almost four, children do care about others, but really cannot put themselves in someone else&#8217;s shoes yet.  That skill develops at its height around the nine year change.  I think your husband handled it well by not using too many words and just staying the course of trying to get dressed, but of course if he needs a break because he is being hurt (a boundary, not hurting others), than he could have tried distraction through a story or other imaginative pictures.  &#8220;Let me tell you a little story about a bunny I know who did not want to get dressed&#8230;&#8221; sometimes can be just the trick to get through things.</p>
<p>Giving a child choices at this age can be very difficult.  THey often don&#8217;t care about the consequences well at the age of almost four, often cannot predict what the outcome of their actions will be (ie, not wanting to brush their teeth doesn&#8217;t mean they are choosing to get cavities at this age, you know?)&#8230;.So, I am all for boundaries, especially when it comes to hurting ourselves or others through words or actions, but I dont think give him choices about doing this or else this will happen because I think almost four is a little young for that.  You hold the space through the rhythm, through your calm actions, through not so many words, and know in your heart things like, yes, this child has got to get off to bed NOW!  LOL.  </p>
<p>With almost four year olds, look carefully at rhythm &#8211; he may very well need four to six hours outside a day, what work is he engaged with around the house,   what is he engaged with with his hands &#8211; baking, wet felting, polishing things, scrubbing, &#8211; all come to mind.  How is his diet and sleep?  Here is a post that may help you look at rhythms in the home:  <a href="http://theparentingpassageway.com/2010/01/13/waldorf-in-the-home-with-the-three-and-four-year-old/" rel="nofollow">http://theparentingpassageway.com/2010/01/13/waldorf-in-the-home-with-the-three-and-four-year-old/</a>                   and I also recommend all the four year posts under the DEVELOPMENT tab.  This post might also be helpful:  <a href="http://theparentingpassageway.com/2011/04/16/strong-willed-at-three-and-four-years-of-age/" rel="nofollow">http://theparentingpassageway.com/2011/04/16/strong-willed-at-three-and-four-years-of-age/</a>  and this one:  <a href="http://theparentingpassageway.com/2011/02/13/how-to-best-support-your-childs-development-ages-3-5/" rel="nofollow">http://theparentingpassageway.com/2011/02/13/how-to-best-support-your-childs-development-ages-3-5/</a></p>
<p>Hope that is a helpful spot, you are doing a great job and I think this is just an age where parenting is really shifting around as our child develops more fully.<br />
Love,<br />
Carrie</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the quick response :)
Well, his younger sister just turned 2. 
I know there has been some jealousy issues with him surrounding her birthday but his behavior has been difficult for some time now. 
I&#039;ll just give examples from today though
This afternoon after my husband came home from work, he and my son played tag for a bit ( in the house). I joined in. we were both chasing him and giving hugs and kisses when we tagged him  letting him be &quot;it&quot; (the littler one just ran around squealing :) ). Then when we started winding down he said he was thirsty and went to the bathroom to get himself a drink. ...he then came out of the bathroom naked and started running around wild and being rough with his sister and was refusing to get dressed again. We had bread in the oven that was just about done and I told him he had until the timer went off and then he would have to get dressed or start losing bedtime stories. ...He lost 2 stories in the process of getting dressed. He was uncooperative and combative about it with his father. He wasn&#039;t being physically forced to dress but while my husband held his pants to help him, my son was bashing his head against my husbands chest and getting all noodle legged with him. We then got dressed to go outside. My husband was at a loss for communication with him at the moment so I went to my son and told him that it made me sad to see him treat his dad like that and he may have hurt him. He didn&#039;t seem to care. We ran around outside for about 1/2 an hour before dinner. His behavior was still restless and rude at the dinner table. Typing this I&#039;m realizing he was probably tired and all the examples I can think of for you don&#039;t seem so bad when I start typing them up. I just feel like there are constant little battles like this all day long. I worry that he has some sort of behavioral disorder sometimes. He throws rageful tantrums and I feel like he tells me he&#039;s &quot;angry&quot; all the time. There have not been many days lately where I felt like we had a good connection. Tonight, since he lost stories, I told him he had the choice and could either lay alone and look at a book with his flashlight or he could lay with me and talk about our day today. He chose to lay with me and then half way through discussing our day he said he just wanted to lay alone with his book. Was that manipulative? Do I worry too much? Sorry this is so chatty and scattered. Thank you for any insight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick response <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Well, his younger sister just turned 2.<br />
I know there has been some jealousy issues with him surrounding her birthday but his behavior has been difficult for some time now.<br />
I&#8217;ll just give examples from today though<br />
This afternoon after my husband came home from work, he and my son played tag for a bit ( in the house). I joined in. we were both chasing him and giving hugs and kisses when we tagged him  letting him be &#8220;it&#8221; (the littler one just ran around squealing <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ). Then when we started winding down he said he was thirsty and went to the bathroom to get himself a drink. &#8230;he then came out of the bathroom naked and started running around wild and being rough with his sister and was refusing to get dressed again. We had bread in the oven that was just about done and I told him he had until the timer went off and then he would have to get dressed or start losing bedtime stories. &#8230;He lost 2 stories in the process of getting dressed. He was uncooperative and combative about it with his father. He wasn&#8217;t being physically forced to dress but while my husband held his pants to help him, my son was bashing his head against my husbands chest and getting all noodle legged with him. We then got dressed to go outside. My husband was at a loss for communication with him at the moment so I went to my son and told him that it made me sad to see him treat his dad like that and he may have hurt him. He didn&#8217;t seem to care. We ran around outside for about 1/2 an hour before dinner. His behavior was still restless and rude at the dinner table. Typing this I&#8217;m realizing he was probably tired and all the examples I can think of for you don&#8217;t seem so bad when I start typing them up. I just feel like there are constant little battles like this all day long. I worry that he has some sort of behavioral disorder sometimes. He throws rageful tantrums and I feel like he tells me he&#8217;s &#8220;angry&#8221; all the time. There have not been many days lately where I felt like we had a good connection. Tonight, since he lost stories, I told him he had the choice and could either lay alone and look at a book with his flashlight or he could lay with me and talk about our day today. He chose to lay with me and then half way through discussing our day he said he just wanted to lay alone with his book. Was that manipulative? Do I worry too much? Sorry this is so chatty and scattered. Thank you for any insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sarah,
THank you for coming to this space for inspiration.  Four and six are the ages I get the most questions regarding discipline about, and there are many blog posts on here regarding those ages.  They are challenging ones!  Yes, I have some suggestions, but I would like to know how old your other child is, and to have a few examples of what you are trying to do when he is being disruptive to your rhythm.  At almost four, I would expect him to push against things, and I know he may look very big compared to your younger child, but almost four is really, really tiny.  I think you are in the land of redirection and movement and fantasy and time in by you if the boundary you have set is broken and he is not able to be re-directed to be helpful.  Four year olds also need copious amounts of time outside - four to six hours a day is not too little!  
So, I think I can help you but I guess I need more information or some examples...

Many blessings,
Carrie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sarah,<br />
THank you for coming to this space for inspiration.  Four and six are the ages I get the most questions regarding discipline about, and there are many blog posts on here regarding those ages.  They are challenging ones!  Yes, I have some suggestions, but I would like to know how old your other child is, and to have a few examples of what you are trying to do when he is being disruptive to your rhythm.  At almost four, I would expect him to push against things, and I know he may look very big compared to your younger child, but almost four is really, really tiny.  I think you are in the land of redirection and movement and fantasy and time in by you if the boundary you have set is broken and he is not able to be re-directed to be helpful.  Four year olds also need copious amounts of time outside &#8211; four to six hours a day is not too little!<br />
So, I think I can help you but I guess I need more information or some examples&#8230;</p>
<p>Many blessings,<br />
Carrie</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the post. I follow this blog regularly for gentle parenting advice. I have been having a hard time with my almost 4 year old (he&#039;ll be 4 in April) and he seems to fit right in with the characteristics listed here for the 4 year old. What I want to know is how do I deal with this behavior? I&#039;m trying my hardest to be gentle with him but I feel like a failure and I&#039;m embarrassed by this behavior. We do have a general rhythm to our day but, outside of sleep/wake and meal times, he can be very resistant to any suggested activities and when I initiate them hoping he&#039;ll join in he becomes a major distraction, to the point where I need to stop what I&#039;m doing with the littler one to &quot;redirect&quot; or &quot;discipline&quot; him. I feel bad doing time outs because I don&#039;t want him to feel cast away for having strong feelings and I don&#039;t want him to feel like I&#039;m excluding him, but I don&#039;t know what else to do. 
It&#039;s not fair to the little one to have to be interupted so often!
Do you have any suggestions???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the post. I follow this blog regularly for gentle parenting advice. I have been having a hard time with my almost 4 year old (he&#8217;ll be 4 in April) and he seems to fit right in with the characteristics listed here for the 4 year old. What I want to know is how do I deal with this behavior? I&#8217;m trying my hardest to be gentle with him but I feel like a failure and I&#8217;m embarrassed by this behavior. We do have a general rhythm to our day but, outside of sleep/wake and meal times, he can be very resistant to any suggested activities and when I initiate them hoping he&#8217;ll join in he becomes a major distraction, to the point where I need to stop what I&#8217;m doing with the littler one to &#8220;redirect&#8221; or &#8220;discipline&#8221; him. I feel bad doing time outs because I don&#8217;t want him to feel cast away for having strong feelings and I don&#8217;t want him to feel like I&#8217;m excluding him, but I don&#8217;t know what else to do.<br />
It&#8217;s not fair to the little one to have to be interupted so often!<br />
Do you have any suggestions???</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Birthday, Eden! &#124; Keren Threlfall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Happy Birthday, Eden! &#124; Keren Threlfall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 00:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joann Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joann Parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 04:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,
The developmental information from the Gesell Institute is so important for people to know!
I&#039;m so glad you share it with others. I attended a Gesell Institute workshop a number of years ago, and the information about the child ages 18 months to 2 years was different from the Gesell Institute books, titled &quot;Your One Year Old,&quot; &quot;Your Two Year Old,&quot; etc. I called the Gesell Institute recently to ask if their books were being updated--it&#039;s been years, and if they stand by the info in their books regarding this age range or were planning to change the info. I was told that the into would change to reflect the information I&#039;d heard:
15 months: disequilibrium--insecure, clingy whiny, fearful. 
18 months: Equilibrium--Stage of lots of growth. Happier, able to do so many more things, like       focus on activity, hold a crayon, climb, often exhibit a burst of language, exhibit a sense of humor
and more.
21 months: Disequilibrium--similar to 15 months. Very concerned about sharing--ownership
issues cause a great deal of stress.
2 years: Equilibrium--pleasing, affectionate, etc.

Of course, Gesell speaks of developmental age. Children don&#039;t necessarily go thought these phases &quot;on time,&quot; but in their own time. For some children, these phases are a blip on the radar,
and for others the stages of disequilibrium are long and intense. It&#039;s important to remember that children are constantly striving, and not acting in &quot;negative&quot; ways on purpose! The more insecure a child feels, the more rigid is the behavior he or she exhibits. The child is trying to be in control
when he or she feels out of control. It&#039;s important to see the innocence of their thoughts and actions. It&#039;s also important to set limits that need to be set, but limits can be set in both firm and consistent, and respectful and loving ways.

Parents just need to know that there is nothing wrong with their children, and nothing wrong with them! It&#039;s important to support children through these stages. When children are exhibiting trying behavior, and seem unlovable, that is when they need to most love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
The developmental information from the Gesell Institute is so important for people to know!<br />
I&#8217;m so glad you share it with others. I attended a Gesell Institute workshop a number of years ago, and the information about the child ages 18 months to 2 years was different from the Gesell Institute books, titled &#8220;Your One Year Old,&#8221; &#8220;Your Two Year Old,&#8221; etc. I called the Gesell Institute recently to ask if their books were being updated&#8211;it&#8217;s been years, and if they stand by the info in their books regarding this age range or were planning to change the info. I was told that the into would change to reflect the information I&#8217;d heard:<br />
15 months: disequilibrium&#8211;insecure, clingy whiny, fearful.<br />
18 months: Equilibrium&#8211;Stage of lots of growth. Happier, able to do so many more things, like       focus on activity, hold a crayon, climb, often exhibit a burst of language, exhibit a sense of humor<br />
and more.<br />
21 months: Disequilibrium&#8211;similar to 15 months. Very concerned about sharing&#8211;ownership<br />
issues cause a great deal of stress.<br />
2 years: Equilibrium&#8211;pleasing, affectionate, etc.</p>
<p>Of course, Gesell speaks of developmental age. Children don&#8217;t necessarily go thought these phases &#8220;on time,&#8221; but in their own time. For some children, these phases are a blip on the radar,<br />
and for others the stages of disequilibrium are long and intense. It&#8217;s important to remember that children are constantly striving, and not acting in &#8220;negative&#8221; ways on purpose! The more insecure a child feels, the more rigid is the behavior he or she exhibits. The child is trying to be in control<br />
when he or she feels out of control. It&#8217;s important to see the innocence of their thoughts and actions. It&#8217;s also important to set limits that need to be set, but limits can be set in both firm and consistent, and respectful and loving ways.</p>
<p>Parents just need to know that there is nothing wrong with their children, and nothing wrong with them! It&#8217;s important to support children through these stages. When children are exhibiting trying behavior, and seem unlovable, that is when they need to most love.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Birthday, Eden! &#171; Beauty in Every Place</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: This Will Keep You Busy: Links By Age &#171; The Parenting Passageway</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Typical Ages of Disequilibrium http://theparentingpassageway.com/2010/02/27/the-typical-ages-of-disequilibrium/ [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The Twelve to Twenty-Two Month Old: A Traditional Perspective &#171; The Parenting Passageway</title>
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		<title>By: QueenArtLady</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carrie 

I just had to smile reading this tonight. My almost 15 months old is behaving like an 18 month old. With my oldest I have also found the strecth from 15-21 months the most difficult (I put it down to pre-verbal frustration).
Likely the oldest have just turned 3 and boy have we observed a change. He is an absolute delight to be with, most of the time.
Hopefully baby will be through her age of disequilibrium before he turns 3 1/2. Haha ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie </p>
<p>I just had to smile reading this tonight. My almost 15 months old is behaving like an 18 month old. With my oldest I have also found the strecth from 15-21 months the most difficult (I put it down to pre-verbal frustration).<br />
Likely the oldest have just turned 3 and boy have we observed a change. He is an absolute delight to be with, most of the time.<br />
Hopefully baby will be through her age of disequilibrium before he turns 3 1/2. Haha <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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